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Mike Pence, a man so wooden that termites salivate when he enters a room, has thoughts:

“President Trump was wrong,” Pence said in a speech at the annual Gridiron dinner, a gathering of senior Washington journalists and dignitaries. “I had no right to overturn the election. And his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day. And I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable.”

…Citing recent attempts by Trump and some supporters to downplay the insurrection, Pence said: “Make no mistake about it, what happened that day was a disgrace. And it mocks decency to portray it any other way.”

 

But even after making a public statement like that, Pence is still trying to avoid speaking under oath:

A Justice Department special counsel has subpoenaed Pence to talk about Trump’s Jan. 6 actions. The former vice president’s lawyers are seeking to quash the subpoena, saying prosecutors lack the legal authority to ask him about private conversations with a sitting president.