Trump Is What ‘Burning It All To The Ground’ Looks Like

May the Doxie Be With You!

Axios dives into this post and OUR comments (check-out the Pelosi bit, for instance), well, kinda (enigmatic emboldening is theirs):

Furious Democrats are considering total war — profound changes to two branches of government, and even adding stars to the flag — if Republicans jam through a Supreme Court nominee, then lose control of the Senate.

  • On the table: Adding Supreme Court justices … eliminating the Senate’s 60-vote threshold to end filibusters … and statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico.
  • “If he holds a vote in 2020, we pack the court in 2021,” Rep. Joe Kennedy III (D-Mass.) tweeted.

Why it matters: Democrats are enraged by GOP hypocrisy of rushing through a new justice for President Trump after stalling President Obama’s final nominee.

  • Dems aren’t optimistic about blocking the nominee. But they have many ways of retaliating if they win Senate control — and are licking their chops about real movement on ideas that have been pushed futilely for decades.
  • For instance, the Constitution doesn’t fix the number of justices, which could be changed by an Act of Congress and the president’s signature, according to the National Constitution Center.

On ABC’s “This Week,” George Stephanopoulos asked Speaker Pelosi about the possibility of impeaching President Trump or Attorney General Barr as a way to stall a Supreme Court confirmation in a post-election lame-duck session.

  • Pelosi replied: “Well, we have our options. We have arrows in our quiver that’s I’m not about to discuss right now.”

Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer said on a call with his caucus yesterday, after a moment of silence for Justice Ginsburg:

  • If Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell “and Senate Republicans move forward with this, then nothing is off the table for next year.”

Let’s unpack what that means:

  • The most controversial of the proposed changes would be adding two more justices to the court. House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler tweeted yesterday: “If Sen. McConnell and @SenateGOP were to force through a nominee during the lame duck session—before a new Senate and President can take office—then the incoming Senate should immediately move to expand the Supreme Court.”
  • At the funeral in July for Rep. John Lewis, President Obama called the filibuster rule — which requires a 60-vote supermajority, instead of a simple majority, to advance legislation — a “Jim Crow relic.”
  • Trying to turn the federal district into a state would be a constitutional thicket. But Democrats are talking anew about pushing statehood for D.C. and Puerto Rico. Capturing the anything-goes spirit among Democrats amid the Supreme Court fight, one party strategist texted me: “Guam want in?”

The big picture: Many Democrats see the GOP’s success at filling the federal judiciary with conservatives after Hillary Clinton’s 2016 popular-vote win as a sign that the machine of democracy itself is broken, and view these structural changes as fixes.

And I will remind the burn-it-all-to-the-ground crowd that Trump is exactly that. This is what burning it all to the ground looks like. You already got your wish, now be part of the rebuilding.

Greg Fallis:

Republican Friend: I’ve been a moderate Republican all my life. I voted for Trump last time, but I didn’t think he’d actually win. I can’t bring myself to vote for him this time.
Me: Great. Glad to hear it.
RF: Don’t be too glad. I’m not voting for Biden either.
Me: Those are the only choices. Trump or Biden.
RF: I’m voting for Jo Jorgensen.
Me: Who?
RF: Jo Jorgensen.
Me: Who is Jo Jorgensen when she’s at home?
RF: She’s the Libertarian candidate.
Me: So you’re voting for Trump.
RF: No, I’m voting for Jorgensen.
Me: Same thing.
RF: No, it’s not. I’m voting my conscience.
Me: Bullshit. You’re dodging your conscience.
RF: No, I’m not. I said I can’t bring myself to vote for…
Me: Yeah, I know what you said. And I know what you meant. You mean you don’t want to feel any responsibility if Trump is re-elected.
RF: No, that’s not it.
Me: Bullshit. That’s exactly it. You don’t want to vote for Trump, but you’re not going to do anything to prevent him from being re-elected. You’re more concerned with soothing your conscience than with protecting the Constitution.
RF: That’s not true. Biden won’t fix the nation’s prob…
Me: Does Jo Jorgensen have a popcorn fart’s chance of winning?
RF: No, but that’s not the point. The point is…
Me: Fuck your point. This is a toggle election. The choices are truly binary. Yes or no. Up or down. On or off. Biden or Trump. Those are the only choices.
RF: I have to vote my conscience.
Me: Fuck you and fuck your conscience. You’re a coward.
RF: I’m not a…
Me: You’re dodging all personal responsibility to act for the good of the nation. It’s no different than saying you oppose the pandemic but won’t wear a mask. Fuck you.
RF: It’s not like that at all.
Me: Did I just say ‘Fuck you’? I believe I did. Fuck you again.
RF: Are you angry with me?
Me: Shut up. Go away. Fuck you and everybody you know, you fucking coward.
RF: I understand you’re upset.
RF: Hello?
Former Republican Friend: Hello?

This is no time for cowards.

PS – Brian Fallon is the executive director of Demand Justice, and a former top Schumer aide and Justice Department official.

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4 Responses to Trump Is What ‘Burning It All To The Ground’ Looks Like

  1. this kind of article always confuses me, because Brian Fallon is the name of the singer and songwriter for the Gaslight Anthem.

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  2. Dennis Cole says:

    So, what’s their plan if the Rethugs just out-and-out steal the election, by announcing on Nov 4th, ” Following a declaration of National Emergency by our president, we must announce that we cannot and will not accept the tallies from the following states as being the real, true, honest results of this election: CA, NV, OR, WA, NY, (and all the other blue states, and as many ‘fly-over’ states that come up short for Drümpf,) and hereby declare an overall Republican victory in BOTH houses, and most importantly, our Preznit will remain Donald J tRump. Too much suspicion has been cast on the validity of the process, which was filled with fraud, and numerous irregularities, so we have no choice but to do what’s best for America, and continue our agendas & policies, while ensuring Law & Order is preserved.”

    What could we do? What could anyone do? Unless the military intervenes, they could probably “draft” sufficient law-enforcement units, and call upon their “Militias,”and “biker-buds,” and 2A fanatics to help maintain Order, to the point we’d all be living under the barrel of a gun, with anyone complaining loudly suddenly “disappearing.” Or those in the biggest cities, anyway, which is all that counts.

    [Tengrain responds –


    This is dangerously close to- and very similar to- the Russian disinformation campaign being waged on Facebook to undermine American’s faith in the electoral system.

    My sister asked me almost exactly this same thing this morning, she read it on Facebook. I’m not kidding: the line before it was, “Why bother to vote when…”

    Please do not bring that merde into my house. I will not allow it. ]

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    • Dennis Cole says:

      I’m sincerely hoping that my fellow Scissorheads are prepared for ANY eventuality.

      “Failing to plan is planning to fail.” And even though NO plan ever remains intact and workable, upon contact in battle with the enemy, it’s good to have at least one for moving forward, and one workable one for “advancing towards the rear.”


  3. Dennis Cole says:

    TG – I didn’t mean to upset you or anyone here, I’m just speculating rather wildly, because I don’t put anything past this bunch of banana republicans. There are other scenarios just as chilling, and several that actually have positive outcomes, from the LA Times, via my local newsrag:

    I’m most certainly NOT trying to dissuade anyone from voting; on the contrary, voting early via mail-in ballots is one way of trying to prevent the above comment. And I hope it’s not behind a paywall, because it’s definitely worth reading.

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