About Last Night…

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Mayro Mike Bloomberg and Sen. Prof. Warren debate (Hat tip: Scissorhead Karla)

This wasn’t like the previous 8 debates, as the first of many memorable moments was Sen. Prof. Elizabeth Warren stopped and frisked Mayor Mike.

“I’d like to talk about who we’re running against. We’re talking about a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. And no, I’m not talking about Donald Trump, I’m talking about Mayor Bloomberg.”

And it went for it again and again. Warren does not like sexist billionaires.

Bloomberg’s best moment was when he was not the focus of attention. Ouch!

Warren also punched hard at the other candidates:

  1. ‘[Mayor Pete’s healthcare plan is ] “not a plan. It’s a PowerPoint.”
  2. “And Amy’s plan is even less. It’s like a Post-It note, ‘Insert Plan Here.'”

That’s a skillful combo-punch that landed hard.

Mayor Pete tried to make it into a joke: “I’m more of a Microsoft Word guy”

Amy tried to laugh it off: “Post-It Notes were invented in my state!”

Mayor Pete also connected a combo-punch: he suggested Democrats should “put forward someone who’s actually a Democrat” — you could see Mikey and Bernie both flinch. Another one from Pete:

“We shouldn’t have to choose between one candidate who wants to burn this party down and another candidate who wants to buy this party out.”

Mayor Pete again: “This is a race for president. If winning a race for Senate in Minnesota translated directly to becoming president, I would have grown up under the presidency of Walter Mondale.” — He just lost any support from Minnesota in the general.

We could recap with a long list of really good jabs and zingers, but you’ll find those everywhere.

So if I had to pick Winners and Losers:

Winners:

  • Lord Dampnut — the candidates did not go after him, even with all the DOJ and pardons in the news!
  • Warren — she showed she is a fighter; she needed a TKO last night, and she got it.
  • Sanders — Except for Mayor Pete, no one went after him much.

Losers:

  • Bloomberg — I was waiting for him to burst open and candies to fall on the crowd. Whoever did his debate prep needs to up their game, he probably should have demurred from participating. Also: he needs to work on his timing. His attempt at self-deprecating jokes ended up just dripping with condescension.
  • NBC — five moderators were way too many. Upchuck Todd lost control of the candidates at the very start and did not ever regain it; Upchuck kept talking over the candidates telling them he’d get to them, so you could not clearly hear the answers to the questions he asked. Chris Matthews in the spin room was his usual amoral self and I couldn’t turn it off fast enough.
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14 Responses to About Last Night…

  1. Ellis Weiner says:

    Someone (ahem) said on Twitter that, although Bloomberg has been a mayor, last night everyone else addressed the audience as a politician, speaking to people who needed to be persuaded, while Bloomie spoke to his audience like a CEO, talking to people who merely had to be told. The person who wrote this (ahem) is v. pleased w/ himself for it, thanks.

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  2. donnah says:

    Warren was awesome: direct, level-headed, and on top of every question. She got to show her stuff and I was glad to see her do well. Amy is okay, but she tends to come across as that girl in school who is a know-it-all and doesn’t like being challenged. We know you passed one hundred bills all by yourself, Amy.

    Pete looked desperate, Bernie was his usual blowhard, arm-waving self, Biden did okay, and Bloomberg was the punching bag. He couldn’t get anything right and he got hammered for it. Welcome to the Big Leagues, Mayor.

    None of the moderators asked questions related to Trump and so maybe the candidates chose to stay with getting their own strengths across. Chuck Todd is a moron and he always looks like he’s struggling to stay in charge. Overall, it was a good debate in terms of seeing who’s getting stronger and who isn’t.

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  3. A thousand years from now what are the odds that ‘Microsoft’ in popular memory will be ‘that guy who invented the Clippy meme’?

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    • retiredeng says:

      Instead of what it actually did: Bully its way into dominance with a mediocre product with planned obsolescence baked in to make gobs of money weaponized to mow down or absorb the competition. All of which continues to this day.

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    • I am currently reading “The Age Of Surveillance Capitalism; The Fight for a Human Future At The New Frontier of Power” by Shoshana Zuboff
      “Shoshana Zuboff has produced the most provocative compelling framework thus far for understanding the new realities of our digital environment and Its anti-democratic threats.” Joseph Turow Prof. University of Pennsylvania
      I was reading this in between dodging the debate mudslinging.

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  4. YellowDog says:

    Warren debating Trump is my dream; no way in hell is he stalking her during her time. But if she is the candidate, he sees this debate and bails on the presidential debates altogether.

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    • Ellis Weiner says:

      He’ll chicken out if it’s Liz or Amy. I think I think he’ll debate Pete, Bloomberg, Bernie, Biden. Wait–the first two are women, aren’t they? Huh.

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      • Ellis Weiner says:

        …although maybe not Bloomberg, who knows more than the others where Trump’s bodies are buried. And if he doesn’t know, he probably has ways of finding out.

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      • Chris Papalia says:

        “He’ll chicken out if it’s Liz or Amy.”

        Anyone thinking that Trump won’t show up for the debates must be inhabiting some parallel universe to the one I’m in; the Trump in this universe can’t wait for the debates!

        Firstly, one of the debates will be hosted by Fox, so that’s an automatic win for Trump just by showing up, with or without his fly zipped up.
        Another will most likely be adjudicated by Chuck Todd, who will interrupt any answer of any length, which is to say all of the Democratic candidate’s answers.
        And regardless of the venue or the adjudicator, Trump has winning debate strategy: HE WILL LIE. He will lie loudly, repetitively, and above all, aggressively. He won’t challenge Warren’s policy proposals on their merit; he will substitute an alternative reality and proclaim his is winning based on the fantasy.

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    • Bruce388 says:

      Lord Dampnut’s galloping brain rot may rule out a debate with anyone.

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  6. Chris Papalia says:

    What, no mention of the other big loser of the debate: Joe Biden? Biden NEEDED a win far more than any of the others did, to show us that his CURRENT presidential campaign isn’t as half-assed and inept as his PREVIOUS presidential campaigns have been. He did not show that.

    Biden fans will say his campaign has far more gravitas than his past ones, and in a way they are right; previously his campaign consisted of being tall and having a nice smile, now he can proudly say he was the tall guy with the nice smile standing next to President Obama for eight years.

    I’m betting that Biden will be the next goat unsaddled.

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