Will They or Won’t They?

Weaponized Pelosi
(Stolen without shame from the much-missed Zaius Nation)

So many people believe that the Mueller Report is a roadmap for Congress to follow to ITMFA, and that is where the real question stands: will the Dims pull the trigger? Nancy Pelosi is as good at political calculus as they come, she seems to be currently opposed and so I think that Betteridges Rule of Headlines will apply: No.


“‘Apparently it’s not criminal to help foreign agents carry out their plans to disrupt an election,’ said [Clinton 2016 Goat Rodeo] campaign manager Robby Mook. ‘I wish instead of just relitigating the past we would spend some time crafting laws to prevent this in the future.’ … Clinton spokespeople Jennifer Palmieri and Brian Fallon tweeted that impeachment hearings ought to be opened.”

Tiger Beat on the Potomac (thanks Charlie!) morning email thingie (emboldening is theirs):

“– CAPITOL HILL DEMOCRATS we spoke with Thursday believe Trump has done enough to deserve impeachment, even though they won’t say it publicly. The president tried to curb the Mueller probe on multiple occasions. They know they can’t remove him from office — they’d need 20 Republican senators — and they know that impeachment is not popular. So they’re kind of stuck…

“…HOUSE SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI scheduled a caucus conference call for Monday, and wrote this in a letter to her colleagues from Ireland, where she is on congressional travel: “The Mueller report states, ‘We concluded Congress has authority to prohibit a president’s corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice,’ which ‘accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law.’ Congress will not be silent.”

Under normal circumstances, the Dims would be in a pretty good shape for the 2020 Goat Rodeo.

  • Polling shows most voters think that Trump is crooked, and clearly the report does not exonerate him, regardless of strategic hire AG Bill ‘Low’ Barr’s attempt at spin.
  • Trump may avoid impeachment (and by DOJ rules,  indictment) while squatting in the White House, and if we all lived and played by the same rules, he would be a deeply damaged 2020 Goat Rodeo contender, and by contamination would bring down the other Republicans.

But we don’t live in a normal world anymore and obvious grifters and brigands are on the upswing, and clearly the Rule of Law does not exist any longer. c-ya, bye.

Holding a trial to impeach Trump will fail and he will be emboldened to steal everything not nailed down. NOT holding impeachment hearings will embolden him and he will steal everything not nailed down, and whoever inherits the throne (The First Shady or Junior Mints) will be even more imperial. And yes, if the Electoral College remains they will “win” election.

So we are on our way to becoming a banana republic one way or the other. We’re totally eff’ed in the dark.

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20 Responses to Will They or Won’t They?

  1. Boris says:

    Off topic…but did you see where 9 thousand feet just closed up shop (with no apparent archives available)?!
    You ‘prolly know ’em, seeing as they comment here all the time – can you find out if they’re moving on due to other than just pure disgust?


    • Dennis Cole says:

      A while back 9TF spoke about experiencing a household crisis of major proportions, and then just recently about lacking bandwidth, and I think he warned us he might have to close up shop, or even stop commenting here. I only visited his site a time or two, but I was impressed both times, and I will sorely miss his comments if he has to give that up also.


      • Boris says:

        Thanks for the info – also…can’t say enjoyed his site, but was also impressed with his thoughtful/logical writings. Too many of like bloggers disappear every year…


    • tengrain says:

      Boris –

      I sent an email, and I’ll let everyone know if I hear a reply.



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    • tengrain says:

      Boris et al –

      I heard back from Scissorhead 9K, who gave me permission to let everyone know that:

      “I’m healthy, yeah, as are we all at Casa 9K’…I don’t wish to maintain a public online presence any longer… Just seem right for the time, at least for me.”

      He asked for me to remove from the blogroll the link to his now-closed blog (which I have done).

      Last word from 9K:

      “Keep up the fight, and don’t take any prisoners.”

      I’ve been around this block a few times and seen some bright lights shut down their blogs, sometimes to return later, but not always. I hope that he will return; the blog-o-sphere needs smart, articulate, and well-reasoned voices. It feels a little bit dimmer without him already.

      It’s been a pleasure having 9K here in the comments, and I know everyone joins me in wishing him well. AND TO COME BACK!



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      • Boris says:

        TG – Thanks for sharing.

        It certainly appeared his tolerance for dealing with the risible sanguinity with which this administration* lies (not to mention the Machiavellian policies [whether witting or not, something always too close to call with these asshats] promulgated by same) had finally crumbled under endless disbelief and exasperation. Thor knows every thinking person in the nation has endlessly wondered “Surely this is a bridge too far; surely Congress will act now!” only to be endlessly disappointed.

        But it’s one thing to hear the latest presidential*/WH atrocity and then turn off the TV. It’s another to think about the latest assault against our Republic, then craft a readable yet perspicacious analysis of same.

        It’s another beast entirely to finally realize that no matter how acute your perspective, no matter how engaging your writing, it always seems for naught. That’s maddeningly frustrating.

        Years of that same non-response might well make one seriously turn to “daddy blogging.”

        Or no blogging at all.

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  2. julesmomcat says:

    My 45 AmRev ancestors are spinning in their graves! Whodathunkit?!?!?


  3. Boris says:

    Also –

    Yes, the DIMs should start impeachment hearings; even the unredacted details warrant such action.
    No, don’t believe Pelosi has the spine for it, the major core duty of modern politicians of all stripes being to ensure their perpetual reelection.


  4. ming says:

    They wont. Senate GOOPers decided to double down a long time ago. Their first line of defense was that we needed to wait for the Muller Report to do anything so that we have all the facts. Now they are floating the argument that we knew all this already and it did not rise to the mark the first time around, so just get over it and move on. Grrrrrrrrr… I’m feeling stabby this morning.

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  5. Dems are already proceeding from the idea that pursuing impeachment will somehow make them “the bad guys” and blow up in their faces. It’s the dumb idea that the left can’t win the day, ever, because the “framing” isn’t on our side. Of course the GOP is going to close ranks, lie, act outraged–they do that anyway!

    The point is being able to daily get in front of a camera and say “We take national security and transparency seriously, and it is a damn shame these Republicans don’t.” Lather, rinse. repeat. I feel like yelling “Doesn’t anybody around here know how this game is played?” Don’t do it or not do it because of elections, do it because it’s right and then have the conviction to make it also look right.

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    • The danger I see is that the GOP will claim “it’s just like when we impeached Bill Clinton; it was all just a partisan attack on a sitting President” because they have ZERO fucking downside to admitting that, just like they had ZERO downside to the admission that sll the endless Benghazi and BUTTEREMAILS investigations were merely to damage Clinton’s credibility…

      And it worked:

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  6. Dennis Cole says:

    Impeachment proceedings are certainly a gamble, but one that surely MUST be undertaken, if only to reassure the voting public that Congress is still concerned enough about The Rule of Law to use practically the only tool at their disposal to show some spine, and to pursue a law-breaking President.
    Will there be blowback, fallout, and perhaps even a ferocious backlash? Certainly. And will Impeachment affect the next election? Immensely. But having an AG who acts more like tRump’s counsel, and not his adversary, and following a ridiculous guideline that states that a sitting president can’t be indicted or arrested, we have no other recourse.
    And like Vixen Strangely says, the Dims must absolutely start shouting from the rooftops and the ramparts how they WILL NOT allow this so-called president, this despicable man, or any other man to be considered above the Law. And they must do this continuously for the next year and seven months, right up until the next election night. This has to be their main battle-cry, that would-be tinpot dictators will not be allowed to drag this great country into the depths of a swamp like none ever seen before, and that The Rule of Law WILL be adhered to. I think a majority of voters will get the message, and install a (D) president, and a (D) Senate majority.


    • Impeachment proceedings are certainly a gamble, but one that surely MUST be undertaken, if only to reassure the voting public that Congress is still concerned enough about The Rule of Law to use practically the only tool at their disposal to show some spine, and to pursue a law-breaking President.

      Presumes facts not in evidence: That the “voting public” gives a flying fuck. We’ve been deeply conditioned by a compliant “bothsides über alles” Media and relentless denigration of politics and the concept of governing by the Right Wing Noise Machine for decades. “They’re all crooks, only interested in getting re-elected”. “Government is the problem!” “There’s not a dimes worth of difference between them”

      Clinton won resoundingly after being impeached I have no doubt that Trump wlould seize that as an example, and there’s enough GOP voter supression that will still be in place in 2020 to make it very hard for Democrats to carry forward;

      “if we can not give them that cudgel to use on us, we will have a better chance.” is likely the thinking of senior Dems.


  7. Sirius Lunacy says:

    ‘I wish instead of just relitigating the past we would spend some time crafting laws to prevent this in the future.’
    I guarantee you that when a Democrat is elected President this will suddenly become a top priority odf Republicans.

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  8. The Ghost of Techie says:

    Nancy Pelosi has already stated that her priority is the legislative agenda, not impeachment. What she’s clearly missing is that any legislation she sends up to McConnell’s Senate is already DOA. Second, without impeachment proceeding, the Blue Wave that swept them to power in 2018 will be nowhere to be found in 2020. Guess what happens then?


    • Hmm, I think the blue wave from 2018 is going to be even angrier in 2020. This is why the R’s are running so scared they’re criminalizing voter registration and trying to completely fuck up the census.

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  9. Karla says:

    I think Dems need to have public hearings to discuss and determine how to secure our elections going forward. Gives lots of chance to discuss evidence of the Russkies stealing 2016, and should also include hearings on how the various states are trying to make it harder for citizens to vote, and how to fix that.
    That lets us look forward without forgetting the past.


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