Why Does Jared Kushner Still Have A Security Clearance?

Jar-Jar vanka Time: The big hand is on her ass, the little hand is no where to be seen.

This transcript story of Jamal Khashoggi’s last moments is gruesome, so fair warning. But what is damning is that Comrade Stupid’s Fratsputin Jared Kushner gave Crown Prince Bone Saw PR advice to handle the fall-out:

“Kushner “offered the crown prince advice about how to weather the storm” following the journalist’s death, the Times said, citing a Saudi source. Kushner also reportedly became the prince’s “most important defender inside the White House” as the Saudi royal, often referred to by his initials MBS, faced mounting global scrutiny over his alleged involvement in the killing. ”

“…White House protocol dictates that National Security Council staff should be present on all phone calls with foreign leaders. Yet, according to the Times, Kushner defied this rule and “kept chatting” privately to the prince. “The two men were on a first-name basis, calling each other Jared and Mohammed in text messages and phone calls,” the report said, citing several former White House officials. ”

The quips about the bromance are providing some cover to Kushner (and yes, MPS has done it, too), but this is really awful. The White House was supposed to be crafting the United States’ official response to the incident, and just down the hall from Prznint Stupid’s, a member of his own eff’ing family was secretly telling the perp, Crown Prince Bone Saw, what was happening and how to respond.


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21 Responses to Why Does Jared Kushner Still Have A Security Clearance?

  1. Why does he still have a security clearance? Because I’ll wager Mueller’s got his version of Lester Freamon up on a wire…and you don’t want to let your target suspect…


  2. Dennis Cole says:

    Forget the security clearance; if he’s guilty of committing crimes, then he should be arrested, and then tried in court. But here’s the $64,000 Amero question: (a whole group of them, actually)

    Who do you call on to arrest someone in high office? The FBI? I suppose if there’s a Federal Warrant involved, they’d be the ones, but would the Secret Service allow it, especially if Hair Furor gave orders for them to block anyone and everyone from approaching Jared, or Jr. Mints, or the First Shady?

    There’s more than ethics violations going on here – laws were broken. So how do you arrest him? Does this fall under the purview of the Secret Service? The Capitol Police? US Marshalls? We’re in seriously uncharted waters here, and even Google can’t give me a definitive answer.

    And can you envision hair Furor calling out the troops, and having them surround the White House with tanks and armed soldiers, with orders to protect the First Family at all costs? I can, but I’m not sure if the officers in charge would obey such an order, or if that order is even legal or doable.

    What do YOU think, fellow Scissorheads?

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    • tengrain says:

      Dennis –

      It is a good question, and I think it depends upon what the charge(s) is(are) and what jurisdiction makes them. Federal charges would be the FBI, which I think would probably be the case if Mr. Mueller indicted any of ’em.

      The DOJ, in one way or another, runs all the entities and fall under the Executive Branch.


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    • The Orange Twitler has no authority to make such a request of the Secret Service, AND they have no authority whatsoever to block a lawful arrest of anyone below the level of President. (The nonsense with them preventing subpoenas was over a civl law affair, iirc)

      As Ten says the charges would be filed in Federal court, so it would be either the FBI or the US Marshals serving the arrest warrant. Trump could ASK the military to surround the WH but unless the Officer corps has become degraded beyond belief, there’s not a single chance that they would obey such an illegal order.

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      • Kiwiwriter says:

        I think the military WOULD surround the White House…and bar the new Congress from meeting.

        Aside from Andrew Jackson’s legendary defiance to John Marshall, there’s also Lincoln’s defiance to Taney in Ex Parte Milligan, but the military has happily obeyed illegal orders in more recent times. The US Air Force fought several illegal wars: Vietnam, Iraq, Panama, and bombed the hell out of Cambodia in the former; it’s operated illegal detention centers, holding people without habeas corpus or trial; tortured prisoners in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay; and conducted espionage on American citizens during the Vietnam Era.

        The Bloated Yam just sent US troops to the Mexican border with the clear intent of using them in the police role, and they went, and are still there.

        Finally, Trump figured out the best way to get the military on his side — the same technique Hitler used back in 1933: buy them off. Not only did Adolf wipe out the Brownshirts, he paid off the generals with massive bribes, including castles and estates in the occupied East. That alone guaranteed military loyalty at the top.

        Today, Trump has authorized massive ($54 billion) defense budget increase, and that’s pretty much the same thing, as the money goes virtually straight to contractors who hire the very generals and admirals they are trying to seek contracts from, usually by promising them cushy jobs when they retire in two years.

        The military-industrial complex is on Trump’s side, and while I suspect the generals and admirals may get nervous if he orders them to incinerate China or North Korea after a Twitter tantrum (or worse, incinerate Britain or France after a different Twitter tantrum), they won’t have any problems imposing a military dictatorship.

        Besides, one thing I saw in the military brass I worked with — they have a LOT of disdain for liberals.

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    • 9thousandfeet says:

      It is indeed a good question.
      Anything in the way of indictments that Mueller comes up with will be Federal, and Der Führer can simply snap his fingers, al la Sheriff Joe, and make it all go away – poof! – just like that.
      SDNY is not Mueller’s gig, but it’s Federal too, so ditto.
      Any State indictments, as for example the NY Attorney General and or the Manhattan DA, who are reportedly sniffing around various Trump enterprises currently, is an entirely different matter.
      Trump has no magic wand for dealing with that, though that doesn’t answer the question of how any indictments from such sources might be enforced, or who would be responsible for trying to enforce them.

      Normally, if the indictments originate in some State judicial process, then State LEO’s would be the go-to bodies to scoop people up.
      Unless that would involve crossing State lines to go get them, in which case they would need, and presumably seek, the cooperation of local law enforcement agencies with jurisdiction for that location to execute any arrest warrants and arrange for extradition proceedings.

      I mean, I think that’s pretty much how it works for ordinary criminals. Murderers, convenience store robbers and so on.

      All of which probably means that it won’t work worth a shit for these assholes. I don’t actually know, but I’d be astonished if, say, DC police officers, or the local sheriff, can just wander up to the WH, or any official who is accorded Secret Service protection at any location, with paperwork which outranks the Secret Service’s authority to tell them to go fuck themselves.

      It would be nice to think that we may end up finding out, but I remain unpersuaded. The closer we get to discovering just how corrupt and venal these bastards are, the closer we will get to what to the beginnings of what will end up as a full court press, and a largely bipartisan one at that, to “spare the nation the trauma” of any really satisfactory prosecutorial conclusion to this shitshow.

      Color me cynical, and I shall be delighted to be wrong, but there it is.

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      • Dennis Cole says:

        9TF – You could be right, about the nation being spared from the trauma, with perhaps Hair Furor being persuaded to resign (HAH!) – if he doesn’t come up with that idea himself, once the Dims are seated come January. Or VP Pence and a majority of the Cabinet could always invoke the 25th Amendment. (Yeah, right.)
        I suppose we’ll just have to wait, and munch some popcorn, and see what shakes out.


      • MDavis says:

        I wonder if that “spare the nation (my family) the trauma” line would get me off the hook it I had any pending charges. After all, the law is supposed to apply to everyone equally, right?


      • Kiwiwriter says:

        If he resigns “for the good of his family,” that opens up a new can of worms, as he loses his presidential protection from prosecution.

        Incidentally, if Pence pardons him, he’d still have to testify at the trials of the rest of the clowns. And since he wouldn’t have to invoke the 5th Amendment, he’d have to testify in full, which could actually lead to those family members going to prison, or him getting nailed for perjury and contempt of court.

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  3. Bruce388 says:

    Another question: Why are the members of this gang still walking around (or riding in a golf cart) free?

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  4. Jules MomCat says:

    Sumbich Kushner obviously graduated with honors from Trump Traitor University.


  5. laura says:

    Kapos gotta Kapo.
    Low tumbrel number for him please…


  6. YellowDog says:

    He has a security clearance because, as we can see in the photo above, he has his hand firmly on the orb of power in the Trump White House. It’s the orb Trump craves, not some Saudi globe.

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  7. Dennis Cole says:

    TG – I DID find this:

    (b) Under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, the Secret Service is authorized to detect and arrest any person who violates—
    (1) section 508, 509, 510, 871, or 879 of this title or, with respect to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Federal land banks, and Federal land bank associations, section 213, 216,[1] 433, 493, 657, 709, 1006, 1007, 1011, 1013, 1014, 1907, or 1909 of this title;
    (2) any of the laws of the United States relating to coins, obligations, and securities of the United States and of foreign governments; or
    (3) any of the laws of the United States relating to electronic fund transfer frauds, access device frauds, false identification documents or devices, and any fraud or other criminal or unlawful activity in or against any federally insured financial institution; except that the authority conferred by this paragraph shall be exercised subject to the agreement of the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security and shall not affect the authority of any other Federal law enforcement agency with respect to those laws.

    (1) Under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security, officers and agents of the Secret Service are authorized to—
    (A) execute warrants issued under the laws of the United States;
    (B) carry firearms;
    (C) make arrests without warrant for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony;
    (D) offer and pay rewards for services and information leading to the apprehension of persons involved in the violation or potential violation of those provisions of law which the Secret Service is authorized to enforce;


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  8. Dennis Cole says:

    Or maybe we could get Individual 1 to go for a boat ride with Wetsy-Betsy, and have the US Coast Guard arrest him!

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  9. roket says:

    I think we should start dusting off that “Negotiating with Terrorists” meme.

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  10. Jim says:

    !) Kushner no longer has a security clearance so he shouldn’t be in the WH period. 2) President can’t be arrested or convicted while in office bur he can be pressured to resign a la Nixon.


    • Dennis Cole says:

      Jim –
      There is NO Law, or Rule of Law that proclaims a sitting Pres. can’t be indicted or arrested. It’s merely a guideline drawn up by the DOJ to attempt to prevent a “Constitutional Crisis, and it’s never been tested – yet.



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